Biography of Umarov Dzhambulat
Interview of the Minister of National Policy of the Chechen Republic Dzhambulat Umarov from the microphone Vladimir Karpov. Today, Dzhambulat Umarov, Minister of the Chechen Republic on National Policy, Foreign Relations, Press and Information. Dzhambulat Vakhidovich, hello. Since last week, everyone has been discussing how is it, the Chechen Republic takes and write off its own debts for gas?
Debts of the population for gas. And immediately those who support Chechnya in this matter appeared, and also want to be written off; But opponents appeared. In general, the discussion unfolded serious. What is happening, Jambulat Vakhidovich? We understand, somehow all this has already become, the explanations were trivial that ...
the Chechen Republic is still a region with its history, with its specificity. Moreover, this is not the specificity of where it is necessary to say that supposedly the Chechen Republic has more rights than all other regions, this is not true. The Chechen Republic is very neat for debts. And paid for debts. It is only necessary to understand that the so -called pipe, when there was no heat in the Chechen Republic, when the Chechen Republic did not use this gas, until the end of the fighting and a few years later, as if the Chechen Republic in this case, which was formed during the fighting, should not pay.
And I believe that this is absolutely correct. And in this case, we are not talking about the superpositions of the Chechen Republic, but about the justice of our justice with you, about the fairness of our state with you. Therefore, I am only for debts with some social ... we are a socially oriented state, right? The Constitution is at least written. So on the basis of this Constitution, so that such debts from time to time be written off to the population and the Ryazan region, the Magadan and the Krasnodar Territory, and other constituent entities of the Russian Federation, in this case we can only rejoice.
Therefore, I support those who rejoice. It’s just that the rest also want it, this is the question, Jambulat Vakhidovich. The rest have the same tools, the same media, a whole tool for transmitting their point of view on this issue. Umarov: Just the Chechen Republic and the Chechen people are not to blame for the fact that some global forces decided to choose it in order to destroy Russia in order to build a terrorist enclave on its territory.
The Chechen people have nothing to do with it. The Chechen people have nothing to do with the backstage games of the Kremlin and their visas in the Chechen Republic in the early nineties. The Chechen people have nothing to do with this. The Chechen people have nothing to do with those who were not supposed to let the emissaries from 53 countries into their territory in order to create a semblance of terrorist ISIS, and I have already said more than once that ISIS wanted to create, rather than Iraqi.
Which at first was to be built in us, in Russia, in the territory of the Chechen Republic. The Chechen people are not to blame. And the Chechen people should not pay for the gas that did not understand or did not come at all. But even if he acted, he went into the pipe, as it is customary to say ... such pipes burned like a certain torch of war, right? Therefore, in all these political games, in all these vicissitudes of incomprehensible, the Chechen people are not to blame.
The year, the Ministry of Industry and Energy of Chechnya appeals to the federal authorities with a request to write off debts for electricity and gas totaling 16 billion million rubles. These are debts too, they were called hopeless at that time. And, as I understand it, the authorities of Chechnya went towards? And many thanks to the leadership of our country. And, I think that after all, in our leadership, thanks to the position of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and his support, they are still most often inclined to the fair solution of certain issues.
But, despite this, I repeat to you once again, the Chechen Republic took first places to pay these debts that have formed, which are now, at the moment, there are. And they were accepted at the highest level. The head of the Chechen Republic personally held these meetings on the payment of electricity debts, gas, generally all utility bills. Because if you look at those remarks that the representatives of various energy companies and the Chechen authorities exchange periodically, there is still some problem, and the growth of debts, it seems to be like it.
Because not only we are talking about energy resources when we are talking about the Chechen Republic. I am more than sure if you and I will be a little in the regions, we will find, there are a lot of such precedents when someone is attributed to someone, and when some are satisfied with this and others are dissatisfied. Just a Chechen Republic, I repeat once again, continues to remain, unfortunately, the great, parables in the tongue.And, I think that any region of the Russian Federation has the right to some fair decisions either from the prosecutor's office or from other branches of power.
The Chechen Republic learned to use these rights, and will continue to use it. Therefore, if something is attributed to us somewhere ... They don’t write off anything that we really owe, I ask you to understand this. In the budget policy in relation to the Chechen Republic, there are a lot of unfair, this was said by the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov. You are talking about five, about six, maybe even about sixteen billion, which were supposedly spent by the Chechen people during their fighting, right?
They were not spent. But why, we unlucky with you, not with a cry that instead of ... Why did we have several tens of billions under the federal target program, for example, on the federal target program? Unsupped? Not the Chechen people bombed themselves? Not the Chechen people themselves destroyed their infrastructure, right? But since we are in the same state, guys, if we fight terrorism, destroying the cities and villages, it is normal when we sat down these cities and sat down, defeating terrorism, we begin to restore.
In the year. This is 10 years ago. These are precisely the consequences of the counter -terrorism operation, which was carried out in the territory of the Chechen Republic. And not only. Before the announcement of this counter -terrorist operation, starting from a year to the fifteenth year you have identified, and to this day, I can safely say that you and I now feel the consequences of this counter -terrorism operation, which in various hypostases arises here and in economic, or in cultural, or in the form of scandals about Chechen gays, or in unfinished accusations about extrajudicial reprisals and so on.
Therefore, there is nothing surprising. Therefore, I am here with you and really hope to understand our radio listeners. Just the latter, in order to bring the line under this discussion, you are for the Russian state to forgive debts, including in other regions of the Russian Federation? You just have to look at who pays for what, by what tariffs. We must see how much disabled people pay.
We must see how much the poor pay. Umarov: Absolutely, you have to watch and take a fee ... not to be just thoughtless wealth, but to charge a fee where it can be fairly charged, right? Where she rightly should be levied, where there is this money, where this money really owes. But when we are talking about unprotected segments of the population, when we are talking about grandfathers and grandmothers, when we are talking about children, about the sick, and the old people, well, why shouldn't we be humane, why not write down these debts to them?
Maybe I speak unfounded, but I am for the weak to help; I am in order to write off these debts; I am for maintaining poorly -incurring and socially unprotected layers. Social state? Be kind, write off all the debts to me. People somehow earned something, received some benefits, received some pensions, had the opportunity to work calmly. In the end, no one bombed them, no one destroyed, no one terrorized them, and so on.
Guys, we still have to think somehow before you blame each other to blame each other of that we had been forgiven for something there. Let's better rejoice. Let's rejoice at the good that happens to us, regardless of which region we live in. Here, for example, is the same Magnitogorsk. Why is no one in the Chechen Republic outraged that there, say, the victims of something was overpayed somewhere?
On the contrary, we considered that the victims must pay more, the victims must be supported more firmly. They need to build beautiful, normal, comfortable, comfortable apartments. We must look at the consequences. I say, I had five children, now I have seven of them. I adopted Arseny and Ksyusha Batalovs, adopted, etc. Here we must understand with you that we live in one country.
Do not treat each other for some incomprehensible curtain. It seems to me that the iron curtain between some regions is much cooler than the one that we had between two Germany during the Warsaw Treaty. Well, let's somehow we will still respect each other. Please, each region has all the possibilities to argue about its debts; In order to maintain their social policy, and at the highest federal level.
Let them try to write off their debts. If they write off, we will enjoy everyone forward for them. And here there is also an informational occasion. As I understand it, a discussion begins about the administrative border between the Chechen Republic and the Republic of Dagestan. All these are the subjects of the Russian Federation. And a similar discussion was recently between the Chechen Republic and the Republic of Ingushetia.
There, this led to a certain kind of popular discontent, with rallies and with everything else. Here is the same as if with the Republic of Dagestan.What are the consequences? How do you evaluate them?